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Re: WordPress (all versions): SPOF, RCE, and Negligence
From: Hanno Böck <hanno () hboeck de>
Date: Tue, 22 Nov 2016 11:13:32 +0100
Hi, Sorry, but I find a lot of your statements very questionable. On Mon, 21 Nov 2016 11:54:33 -0500 Scott Arciszewski <scott () paragonie com> wrote:
Consequently, the WordPress update server is one of the largest single points of failure (SPOF) on the Internet.
Yeah, just like the update servers from Microsoft (which are definitely a bigger POF). Or Apple. Or Google. Or Samsung. Or Mozilla. Granted, having signatures as an additional protection on top of TLS improves security, but it's an unfortunate fact that update infrastructure is a big attack surface and a complicated problem. Signatures can only change a single point of failure to two points of failure. The solution is probably something along the lines of transparency logs and for binary software reproducible builds, but nobody has anything in that space that works today. Wordpress could do better in terms of security with some issues, e.g. I find it disappointing that they don't seem to show any interest in deploying CSP. But the fact that Wordpress has auto updates at all imho puts it in front of every other CMS out there in terms of security. For all the others they basically expect their users to manually install updates, sometimes within hours as could've been seen with every RCE in joomla or drupal that was discovered in the past. Wordpress having an auto update has probably protected millions of webpages from being compromised. -- Hanno Böck https://hboeck.de/ mail/jabber: hanno () hboeck de GPG: FE73757FA60E4E21B937579FA5880072BBB51E42
Current thread:
- WordPress (all versions): SPOF, RCE, and Negligence Scott Arciszewski (Nov 21)
- Re: WordPress (all versions): SPOF, RCE, and Negligence Ben Tasker (Nov 21)
- Re: WordPress (all versions): SPOF, RCE, and Negligence Michael Babker (Nov 21)
- Re: WordPress (all versions): SPOF, RCE, and Negligence Scott Arciszewski (Nov 21)
- Re: WordPress (all versions): SPOF, RCE, and Negligence Solar Designer (Nov 21)
- Re: WordPress (all versions): SPOF, RCE, and Negligence Ben Tasker (Nov 21)
- Re: WordPress (all versions): SPOF, RCE, and Negligence Michael Babker (Nov 21)
- Re: WordPress (all versions): SPOF, RCE, and Negligence Ben Tasker (Nov 21)
- Re: WordPress (all versions): SPOF, RCE, and Negligence Hanno Böck (Nov 22)
- Re: WordPress (all versions): SPOF, RCE, and Negligence Scott Arciszewski (Nov 22)